Coming back, not to flog a dead horse but to tie up a few loose ends.
I think I get now, mainly from your exchange with Marion, how you see the new show: It's a different show, but masquerading as the original.
Me, I've always seen it as, "it's a new show, with some changes of the kind that tend to happen when you re-invent an old show, but lets play the game of assuming it really is the old show which has been continuing for a long time in other places/media/realms/forms, and see how well we can make that work?"
And yeah, they consciously re-invented the Doctor as a lot less "lordly" than he used to be. And I could just say "They've changed the character", or I can say "ah, now how shall we explain this in terms that allow the game to continue? Well, for a start, there's the Time War, explicitly stated as a reason for some character changes ... then there's the fact that an awful lot of time has gone by since what we saw in the TVM... " and so on.
Have I really only said "...because it was an episode of nuWho"?
Not directly, no, but that's what your stated objections seem to evaluate to. I've tried to fish a few times for "but were there any good bits?", or "given that NuWho is NuWho, what would have made it deserving of at least a smidgin of praise?", and got responses to the effect of "bring back everything they threw out about the Classic series" - which obviously isn't going to happen between one episode and the next of a season that was planned from beginning to end by RTD and co. to have RTD-style arcs, RTD-style glossy bits, and RTD-style everything else before the first shot was even filmed.
So it seems that the only way you're likely to actually enjoy any aspect of any ep of NuWho within the forseeable future is on the occasion when you subsequently get up, walk over to the telly and say to the Countess, "Oh! Apparently we've been just watching Channel 4". =:o}
[HAS A SUDDEN ALARMING THOUGHT] Umm... [SCROLLS BACK AND READ WHAT'S BEEN SAID] OK, who left this deceased equine here, and more importantly *who* planted this whip in my hand? =:o?
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I think I get now, mainly from your exchange with Marion, how you see the new show: It's a different show, but masquerading as the original.
Me, I've always seen it as, "it's a new show, with some changes of the kind that tend to happen when you re-invent an old show, but lets play the game of assuming it really is the old show which has been continuing for a long time in other places/media/realms/forms, and see how well we can make that work?"
And yeah, they consciously re-invented the Doctor as a lot less "lordly" than he used to be. And I could just say "They've changed the character", or I can say "ah, now how shall we explain this in terms that allow the game to continue? Well, for a start, there's the Time War, explicitly stated as a reason for some character changes ... then there's the fact that an awful lot of time has gone by since what we saw in the TVM... " and so on.
Have I really only said "...because it was an episode of nuWho"?
Not directly, no, but that's what your stated objections seem to evaluate to. I've tried to fish a few times for "but were there any good bits?", or "given that NuWho is NuWho, what would have made it deserving of at least a smidgin of praise?", and got responses to the effect of "bring back everything they threw out about the Classic series" - which obviously isn't going to happen between one episode and the next of a season that was planned from beginning to end by RTD and co. to have RTD-style arcs, RTD-style glossy bits, and RTD-style everything else before the first shot was even filmed.
So it seems that the only way you're likely to actually enjoy any aspect of any ep of NuWho within the forseeable future is on the occasion when you subsequently get up, walk over to the telly and say to the Countess, "Oh! Apparently we've been just watching Channel 4". =:o}
[HAS A SUDDEN ALARMING THOUGHT] Umm... [SCROLLS BACK AND READ WHAT'S BEEN SAID] OK, who left this deceased equine here, and more importantly *who* planted this whip in my hand? =:o?